Curse

clawofcrimson · Jun 04, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33

^ you could use a wand as well... or just switch out the adrenal skills.

cyvil · Jun 11, 2007, 01:20 PM // 13:20

Although my question applies to shouts in general,the Shouting Orders build (Damage Support P/N Order of Pain) is the build from which my question developed. There is some debate as to whether or not the "target ally" skills apply to minions. From the wiki description of "ally," it seems that all of the skills, aside from OoP are affected by any green symbols within range. Do these skills apply to/benfit from minions, pets and spirits?

clawofcrimson · Jun 11, 2007, 02:11 PM // 14:11

'ALLY' is including minions as well (i.e. fall back will increase speed to and heal minions)

Llednar · Jun 17, 2007, 05:29 AM // 05:29

While I do not agree with all of what was said in the guide, this post was still an informative read, I'd like to see some clean-up done, grammar check, punctuation, more PvE/PvP Build lables, etc...

clawofcrimson · Jun 18, 2007, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Ya .... I am planning to do some clean up after the new updated skills stick...

Phantom Flux · Jun 26, 2007, 06:06 AM // 06:06

I'm glad you've created this article. I've always been searching a way of making my paragon more fun that I try to make myself believe of it. Even in AB I've been finding the Paragon useless, especially if the only thing it can do is support a team that doesn't deserve any supporting. (EX: Team splitting up to fight mobs and be a bunch of Kelly Bundys.)

vaxmor · Jun 28, 2007, 03:53 AM // 03:53

how effective is 25% IAS on a spear?

Haldibarn · Jul 03, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

Thanks for the guide, very good and useful!

Willow O Whisper · Jul 10, 2007, 12:31 AM // 00:31

ty ty ty! for this guide Claw, just recreated my paragon and needet some advice, this really helped me out. Really great job!

Droz the Merciless · Jul 12, 2007, 10:39 AM // 10:39

Interesting read. Like some of the others, I made a Paragon when NF first came out, then I just left him be. Your guide along with the prompting of one of my guild officers has inspired me to re-exam my Paragon, and all the uses I can put him to. Thank you.

Legolas The Ranger · Jul 18, 2007, 01:11 PM // 13:11

GREAT POST, and nice builds, i'm looking forward to using those builds...

, cya later

Banane-O-Man · Jul 19, 2007, 06:58 PM // 18:58

Will this build work for PvE, it is a based adrenaline/sword p/w build. Well here it is.

12 Swordmanship
9+1 Motivation
9+1 Command

{S}Dragon Slash (Elite)
{S}Sun and Moon Slash
{S}Standing Slash
{M}Mending Refrain
{C}Stand your Ground / Bladeturn Refrain
{C}Go For the Eyes
{M}Finale of Restoration
Rez

I didn't test it out yet but I think it has decent damage, some healing and 2 party buff, this is mostly a tank build that I though of. Can anyone think of a speed buff that would make this build more viable so you can hit faster and gain adrenaline faster too?

PS: Paragons are Overpowerd ~.^

Tyler Carter · Aug 03, 2007, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Im Very Impressed

Alana Gravebed · Aug 12, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Awesome guide Claw, lots of work... that has changed my paragon status from Mule to playable.

I have a question for you, when paragons first came out ppl were saying they would be the best Droks runners... where are they?? we see Dervish a lot walking their way to droks. Is it not possible or too hard to run droks with a Paragon?

Dean Harper · Aug 14, 2007, 07:55 PM // 19:55

add this build to support builds:

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:P/W_Party_Support

Spartian · Sep 21, 2007, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Thks for all.
Any news for the new skills from eye of the north?

Curassis Ilmensen · Oct 11, 2007, 09:42 AM // 09:42

Very nice guide!

I already have a L20 Paragon, but besides disliking most of the available armours i am not going to play with him anymore until ANet gives them helmets!!!!

Fighting with shield and spear? Design looking ancient? Where are the greak/roman/... style helmets?

Kayu Ishida · Oct 23, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Wow! I will definately work on my paragon now! I usually play a monk, so being a paragon will allow me to continue my roll as a party supporter, yet it will also give me a nice profession change to play around with. Thank you for posting this amazing thread!

Rolland · Oct 25, 2007, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Great review and build guide/analysis !

Made my 1st one today (as i just bought NightFall heh) before I even knew about your post.

This will defiantly come in handy

Regards

MasterofDarknedd · Oct 29, 2007, 10:43 PM // 22:43

Hey, i have a few builds for my paragon that i use to Solo i will post this very soon